Ancient times/Qui étaient vraiment les Gaulois ? - Entretien avec Dominique Garcia
Qui étaient vraiment les Gaulois ? - Entretien avec Dominique Garcia

Qui étaient vraiment les Gaulois ? - Entretien avec Dominique Garcia

Nota Bonus1h 56min
An interview with Dominique Garcia, doctor in archaeology and president of INRAP
30 chapters
  • Introduction and guest presentation(0'00 → 2'26)
    Warm opening with presentation of the event in partnership with INRAP during European Archaeology Days
    • Doctor in archaeology and professor in the chair of national antiquities • President of INRAP (National Institute of Preventive Archaeological Research) • Specialist in European protohistory and the Gallic period
    • Research conducted around the Mediterranean from Greece to Syria • Over 250 published articles and about twenty books • Recently: 'The Gauls with naked eye' with latest knowledge
    Period of European Archaeology Days allowing the French public to discover their archaeological heritage and the behind-the-scenes of archaeology
  • Etymology and origin of the Gallic term(2'26 → 6'28)
    The term 'Gallic' comes from Gallic itself, with a root 'galles' meaning 'valiant' or 'sturdy'. A Celtic people named themselves this way to enhance their status
    • The Gauls did not possess writing • The term was reported by Romans in Latin • Initially limited to a small people, it expanded to the entire territory
    Like Christopher Columbus calling all American peoples 'Indians', Romans imposed the term 'Gallic' on all peoples of this territory, encompassing other tribes with different names
    Celts and Gauls are not synonymous: all Gauls are Celts, but some Celts are not Gauls. Celtic territory is older and larger than Gaul
  • Geographic definition of Gaul by Caesar(6'28 → 10'32)
    The definition of Gaul as the territory of present-day France is a relatively recent invention attributed to Caesar
    • Caesar delimits his battlefield • South and west: seas (Atlantic, Mediterranean) • East and north: Alps and Rhine (beyond, the Germans)
    These borders defined by Caesar for a temporary military objective became permanent geographic limits of Gaul and marked European history
    The Rhine boundary, created arbitrarily by Caesar, sparked centuries of conflict between France and Germany over this non-existent frontier
  • Diversity of French ancestors and geographic limits(10'32 → 14'37)
    • Humanity comes from Africa • Neolithic migrations beyond Africa • Populations from Near East and Mediterranean • The Gauls are only part of French roots
    The Gauls are not exclusively ancestors of the French: Belgic Gaul in Belgium, Helvetii in Switzerland, and Galatians in present-day Turkey share the same roots
    In Corsica, in overseas territories and certain areas, there were never Gauls despite integration into national territory
    Reference to colonial discourse where children of conquered lands learned 'our ancestors the Gauls', illustrating the imposition of a fictional identity
  • Gallic cultural and linguistic unity(14'37 → 19'40)
    • Extremely similar languages from Danube to Atlantic • Celtic roots in British Isles, France, Spain, Hungary • Inter-tribal communication possible through common dialects
    When Caesar sends a southern Gaul (southern accent) to negotiate with northern tribes, they can communicate despite distance and different accents
    • Characteristic Celtic artistic abstraction • Little human or animal representation • Similar evidence traces across entire territory
    No Gallic political unity or state before the Gallic Wars, unlike Rome or Greek city-states which had state structures
  • Gallic contacts with the Mediterranean world(19'40 → 29'13)
    • Greeks and Romans: sedentary city-states with established urban life • Gauls: semi-sedentary populations practicing demographic dispersal • Technology of wood and earth, not stone
    Gauls perceived as barbarians speaking another language, migrants not fixed to a place, without territorial rules, unlike urban civilizations
    • Brennus invasion of Rome in 390 BCE • Approach to Delphi around 270 BCE with religious cultural shock • Persistent negative memories of Greeks and Romans
    Gauls left no writings, so all knowledge comes only from Greek and Roman texts, partial and incomplete, comparable to using only military reports to know a culture
  • Founding of Marseille and early principalities(29'13 → 33'26)
    • Phocaeans from Turkey founded Marseille in 600 BCE • Settlement at Rhône estuary, communication axis to Celtic world • Creation of trading post between coast and hinterland
    • Marseille created a phenomenon of Celtic principalities • Cities created at Vix, Bourges, probably Lyon • Interfaces between Mediterranean and European river spaces
    • Etruscan-type fortifications brought by Greeks • Prestigious gifts: Vix crater and large cauldrons • Wine introduced, manufactured product unknown to Gauls
    Gallic populations sedentarize, enrich themselves and benefit from trade between Mediterranean and Asian world, leading to inter-ethnic unions
  • Euro-Mediterranean trade and resources(33'26 → 38'40)
    • Copper present in Mediterranean • Tin absent: needed in Morvan, Brittany, British Isles • Euro-Mediterranean trade created for this critical resource
    • Cereals for expanding Mediterranean cities • Baltic amber, rare and prestigious product • Slaves captured during inter-Gallic conflicts
    • Wine and military technologies brought by Greeks and Romans • Jewelry and specific ceramics • Ramparts and fortifications to ensure trade
    Connected territory from Danube to Atlantic functioning in commercial network, with peoples knowing travelers and linked by commercial and cultural contacts
  • Gallic mercenaries and introduction of currency(38'40 → 42'22)
    • Gauls served as mercenaries in Greek and Roman armies • Common practice of ancient times, not specific to Gauls • Gallic presence in Mediterranean battles documented
    Gauls paid in gold and silver for their services, leading to learning and use of currency
    • First Gallic coins copy Philip of Macedon's staters • Currency acquired by mercenaries who fought alongside Greeks • Currency introduction linked to this military activity
    Gauls borrowing Greek and Latin letters to write their own language, demonstrating adaptation and exchanges without constant conflict
  • Cultural exchanges and Greek influences(42'22 → 44'19)
    • Alphabets found on ceramics at Lattes near Montpellier • Greek and Latin writings used to learn the alphabet • Fragments with sometimes clumsy learning exercises of children or apprentices
    • Phocaeans in Marseille married local women to colonize • Inter-ethnic marriages creating lasting population ties • Unions of Gallic women with Greek men
    Hundreds or thousands of amphorae found at Bibracte proving extremely important and sustained trade
    Archaeology demonstrates commercial and cultural activities prior to conflicts, territory first conquered commercially before Roman military conquest
  • Romanization and political transformation(44'19 → 47'26)
    Term 'Gallo-Roman' rejected by contemporary specialists as vague and imprecise in meaning
    • Romans came to Gaul: military, auxiliaries, traders, merchants • Gauls married to Romans • Combined civilization, not simple assimilation
    Modern concept of 'Roman' linked to civilization and progress, Gallic term linked to popular roots, specific French historiographic distinction
    • Romans described as 'romanizing', Greeks as 'hellenizing' • Gauls described as 'migrants' or 'invaders' when they are at home • Terminological inversion revealing historians' colonial bias
  • Construction of Gallic identity in the 18th century(47'26 → 54'46)
    • Before revolution: French history = history of Frankish kings, divine lineage • After revolution: French history = history of French people • Search for ancestors for the common people
    • Gauls first peoples named in Greek and Roman texts • Attribution to French as ancestors of the earliest named • Artificial creation of an ancestral popular layer
    • All ancient elements attributed to Gauls: dolmens, menhirs • Modern dating system (radiocarbon) invented only in 1950 • Before: impossible to distinguish prehistoric from Gallic
    School textbooks represented Gauls with dolmens and menhirs, explaining Obelix's image as menhir-carrier in Asterix comics
  • Figure of Vercingetorix and national identity(54'46 → 60'32)
    • Vercingetorix attempting to unite Gallic populations during Gallic Wars • Some successes but many defeats • 52 BCE: defeat at Alesia, capture, death in Rome prison
    Possibility that Vercingetorix was a Gallic chief promoted by Caesar to justify difficult campaign and obtain troops and money from Roman Senate
    • Few archaeological elements on Vercingetorix • Almost sole source: Caesar himself • Attributed qualities (intriguing, unifying) possibly invented by Caesar
    • National narrative values 'worthy loser' against 'cold victor' • Parallel Tour de France: we admire 2nd-3rd place riders rather than winner • Gallic spirit: willpower and courage but inability to unite and conquer
  • Napoleon III and Gallic archaeology(60'32 → 65'04)
    • Napoleon III constructs his own history of French people • Excavations at Alesia and Bibracte with rigorous methods • Gathering of territorial documents at national antiquities museum (Saint-Germain-en-Laye)
    • French people can rise if they accept Roman civilization • Broken Gallic people must accept Roman reform • Construction of popular national identity around Gauls
    • Historians like Thierry and Michelet write Gallic history • Paul Vidal de la Blache invents geographic concept of 'pays' from Gallic 'pagus' • Armand Colin maps spread image of Gallic France in schools
    • Petit Lavisse distributed from 1884 to 1950s to all schoolchildren • Several million copies • Begins with 'our ancestors the Gauls' and Vercingetorix as leader image
  • Gauls in school and national imagination(65'04 → 68'46)
    Petit Lavisse asks child: prefer evil Caesar or valiant Vercingetorix? Would you defend your homeland?
    • Children after 1870 defeat reading school textbooks • Questions about Gallic identity facing eastern border to reclaim • Forging revanchist and nationalist spirit
    • Uderzo and Goscinny create Asterix close to school representations • Gallic quarrelers, banquets, druids, dolmens • No field archaeology available but descriptions faithful to ancient texts
    • Asterix still published, new album planned • Imaginary Gauls: clever versus powerful organized Romans • French spirit: diversity, freedom but inability to complete and conquer
  • Contemporary political uses of Gauls(68'46 → 72'26)
    Gallic image evolved 70 years after 1950, archaeology transformed understanding, but political discourse still repeats old elements
    • Gallic terms used politically: 'our ancestors the Gauls', 'Gallic jests' • Broad and accessible vocabulary to address the people • Popular discourse not necessarily populist
    • Beer, Gauloises cigarette pack, Gallic imagination in general culture • Part of broad French cultural vocabulary • Attempt to unify different populations around common history
    • Mitterrand creates Bibracte archaeological center 1981 inspired by Goudineau and Lang • Valuing national heritage through scientific approach • Each use also referring to heritage and archaeology
  • Preventive archaeology and renewal of knowledge(72'26 → 75'29)
    • Napoleon III excavated military sites to illustrate history • 1970s-80s-90s: preventive archaeology along highways, TGV, developments • Practiced by INRAP and territorial authorities
    • Reconciles two actions: land development and heritage preservation • Excavation where tomorrow's history is built, not only where texts say to dig • Discovery of roads, fields, quarries, mines, necropolises, sanctuaries
    • Soil archives allow rewriting Gallic history • Economies, cultures, burial practices documented • Overcoming limits of partial and incomplete Greek and Roman texts
    • Study over long time, not only battle times • Regional variations in Gallic culture • How culture implanted, influenced, accepted, rejected
  • Recent Gallic archaeological discoveries(75'29 → 81'45)
    • Vix, Lavau, Bourges sites excavated by INRAP, CNRS, universities • Tintignac votive deposit with extraordinary Gallic helmets • Carnyx trumpets cited in ancient texts, multiple archaeological evidence
    • Coring and pollen spectrum analysis show vegetation • Gallic grain storage methods known • Agricultural and demographic expansion documented
    • Oppidum in Charentes recently discovered during development • Gallic city nearly unknown affected by suburbs and economic zones • Several oppida still to be discovered in landscape
    • Paul statues with warrior published in exemplary monograph • Archaeological contexts now known, not isolated • Latène art transforming Mediterranean art into Celtic
  • Gallic environment and economy archaeologically documented(81'45 → 84'27)
    • Long image of 'great Gallic forests' with small clearings • Preventive excavations with coring show transformed landscapes • Neolithic and Iron Age: significant clearings documented
    • Economic history possible through environment studies • Major demographic growth in Iron Age • Growing populations controlling and disturbing Mediterranean traders
    • Narbonnaise Province created 121 BCE after century of Roman presence • Warriors follow traders to ensure pacified space • Gallic Wars follow established commercial logic
    Archaeology allows reviewing Roman imperialism: war guarantees economic space, not gratuitous conquest
  • Importance of major archaeological discoveries(84'27 → 86'48)
    • Lavau discovery of the century for Dominique Garcia • Moulin-à-Vent oppidum important • Lattes near Montpellier rich teaching sites
    • Paul monograph published recently, exemplary • Gallic statuary progressively discovered and documented • Gergovie and Bibracte exemplary continuing excavations
    • Archaeology gives contexts and sets to previously isolated objects • Landscapes reconstituted around discoveries • Documents integrated into learned monographs
    • If Gauls not strictly ancestors, today sufficient documents to be reference points • Knowing history, location, how to operate in territory • Helps inhabitants better understand contemporary space
  • Gauls and contemporary European identity(86'48 → 86'42)
    Gauls part of broader Celtic territory: collaboration with researchers from Hungary, Poland, Germany
    • Gallic ancestors historically gave revanchist momentum • Today: scientific cultural vocabulary to collaborate with neighboring countries • Shared identity rather than conflictual
    Culture and heritage differentiate and unite Europe in shared common experience
    INRAP 20 years in 2022, promise of field exchanges, conferences, archaeology exhibitions for all
  • European Archaeology Days(86'42 → 90'32)
    • Three-day encounter of citizens with archaeology • Organized by Culture ministry entrusted to INRAP • Unites national archaeological activity
    • Preventive excavations open three days • Ephemeral shows: excavation sites disappear fifteen days after • Frequent classic museums, discover preventive sites
    • Nearly 600 events three days across France map • Special backstage: Cosquer cave workshop, C2RMF virtual visit • Alesia, Gergovie exhibitions, community services
    • Archaeologists and CNRS university researchers present directly • Archaeology villages with tents and presentations • INRAP co-produces thirty exhibitions and conferences
  • Volunteer participation in archaeological excavations(90'32 → 92'12)
    • Culture ministry website lists volunteer-open excavations • List accessible mecu.culture.fr • Summer periods generally
    • History and archaeology students • Enthusiasts wanting to give time in professional setting • All energy and skills welcome
    • Outdoor laboratory, not 19th-century laborer excavation • Physical, intellectual, cultural activity • Personal investment required but enriching
    • Some excavations authorized late 2021 • Many CNRS university colleagues seeking volunteers in summer • Real scientific work proposed to participants
  • Living history and archaeological reconstructions(92'12 → 97'58)
    • Samara sites reconstruct Gallic villages • Learning gestures and techniques through object fabrication • History experimentation of techniques important
    • Rampart restitution Bibracte Gallic-type shows construction • Ground traces often sunken, little visible without restitution • 3D imagery and watercolors aiding pedagogical understanding
    • Samara siderurgy shows furnaces, wood volumes needed, charcoal • Gallic boats reconstruction still navigates today • Experimentation clarifies complicated gestures
    • Reconstructions engage public to question even if wrong • Encourages looking at terrain and real archaeology • Sensitizes difference between hypothesis and direct archaeology
  • Contemporary Gallic heritages(97'58 → 101'02)
    • Chariot, yoke, dog, fir, trout Gallic • Ambassador from Ambarri Gallic tribe origin • Larks word also Gallic
    • Several thousand identifiable Gallic words in modern French • Proportion: mainly Latin, but Gallic heritage remains non-negligible • Before: tendency to deny this heritage
    Gallic language completely disappeared into French, die-hard Bretons speak it partially
    • No specific documented Gallic societal heritages • Perhaps Gallic landscapes and natures slightly different • Finistère, confines creating particular atmospheric landscape
  • Status of Gallic women(101'02 → 106'45)
    Gallic societies surely patriarchal, not to idealize imaginarily
    • Two ancient texts report Marseille founding • Segobriges chief's daughter chooses Phocaean husband at banquet • Father cedes territory young couple to found new city
    • Lady of Vix buried with crater, cauldron, jewelry, precious vessels • Woman probably Celtic principality chief • Geopolitical power space occupied by woman
    • Inter-Gallic conflicts: women intervene to stop fights • Debate restart when men fight • Specific place as intermediaries in Gallic society
  • Gallic shoes and material remains(106'45 → 108'55)
    • Paul, Trémuson statues, Retournac discoveries little foot detail • Truncated earth statues, feet not represented • Clothing data: bracelets, trousers, cuirasses
    Dominique García knows little about Gallic shoes, detail rarely represented in archaeology
    • Lattes muddy street: bogged chariot sand gravel added • Traces of hooves, wheels, Gallic feet preserved • Gallic removed shoes: absence of shoe evidence
    Absence of archaeological data not proof: shoes can disappear from organic materials
  • Death tolls in Gallic Wars(108'55 → 111'56)
    Roman army specialist proposed 1 to 3 million deaths in Gallic Wars broad documented range
    • 20 years of truly bloody war • Important battles documented • 1-3 million range plausible
    • Caesar texts not neutral, probably exaggerate • Responsible for Rome reports: interest in inflating enemy losses • Contemporary parallel: own losses weigh on mentality
    Caesar had interest reporting enormous Gallic death numbers to Roman Senate to justify troop and money necessity
  • Bibliographic recommendations and resources(111'56 → 115'34)
    • Exhibition catalog Cité Villette Matthieu Poux François Malrieux • The Protohistory of France Jean Guilaine Dominique Garcia • Gauls with naked eye (Dominique Garcia) • Gallic Wars Caesar new Belles Lettres translation
    • Christian Goudineau simple, effective, intelligent works • Jean-Louis Brunaux publications Gaul Vercingetorix specialist • Laurent Olivier Celtic Countries, Caesar versus Agérix • Stéphane Fichtl Gallic peoples, Gallic cities
    • Bibracte.fr Gaul information • Hydra.fr archaeological center elements • FETAF association Celtic archaeology enthusiasts: fetaf.org
    • Documentation exists via good channels • Beware of strange New Age information • False Alesia sites can mislead
  • Conclusion and archaeological perspectives(115'34 → 116'55)
    • Gauls not exclusive French ancestors • Sufficient archaeological documents for identity reference points • Knowing history, location, how to live, function
    • Gauls part of collaborative Celtic territory • Researchers from multiple countries work together • Shared identity rather than revanchist
    • INRAP 20 years in 2022, promises field engagement and sharing • European Archaeology Days public access to discoveries • Summer excavation volunteering for all enthusiasts
    • Discover heritage this weekend archaeology European days • Bring children to discover excavations, museums, exhibitions • Participate volunteer excavations summer for professional immersion