Pokemon Theories/Pokemon: Which Gen 1 Starter is TRULY THE BEST? - DeadLock
Pokemon: Which Gen 1 Starter is TRULY THE BEST? - DeadLock

Pokemon: Which Gen 1 Starter is TRULY THE BEST? - DeadLock

The Game Theorists16 minJul 29, 2017
10 chapters
  • Introduction and Setup(0'002'19)
    Professor Oak presents three starter Pokemon to gamers: Bulbasaur, Charmander, and Squirtle, marking a pivotal moment in gaming history.
    Polling data shows Bulbasaur placed in a distant third, leaving Charmander and Squirtle as the main contenders in this debate.
    The analysis examines stats, strategy, and cool factor to determine which Pokemon starter truly reigns supreme.
    This episode features two hosts presenting opposing arguments in a structured debate format called Deadlock.
  • Charmander's Philosophical Argument(2'194'39)
    Fire represents humanity's greatest discovery, enabling science, art, chemistry, cooked food, light, and heat, fundamentally changing human civilization.
    The ancient Greeks recognized fire's importance, attributing it to Prometheus stealing from the gods themselves.
    Charmander embodies the power of Greek gods and the most important chemistry discovery, making it objectively the best starter.
    Walking with Charmander means carrying the power to toast marshmallows anytime, anywhere.
  • Squirtle's Scientific Counter-Argument(4'396'06)
    Water is essential for life itself and enables planets to sustain life.
    • Venus and Mars have CO2-dominated atmospheres while Earth does not • Earth's oceans absorb atmospheric CO2, creating conditions for life • This chemical process directly enabled Pokemon's creation
    Squirtle learns water moves at levels 8 and 15, before even evolving, providing early-game advantage.
    Water's presence on Earth made everything possible, including the Pokemon games themselves.
  • Popularity and Creator Preferences(6'067'45)
    • 7,000 Twitter followers overwhelmingly voted for Charmander over Squirtle • Nintendo surveyed over half a million Pokemon fans • Charizard ranked number 6 in the top 100 most popular Pokemon ever
    Charizard was beaten only by Pikachu, Mew, and other top-tier Pokemon in the official popularity rankings.
    • Junichi Masuda chose Bulbasaur • Shigeru Amore chose Squirtle • Neither selected Charmander despite both being developers of Pokemon remakes
    Blastoise placed at number 86 in the official Nintendo popularity poll, significantly lower than Charizard.
  • Speedrunner Analysis and Move Sets(7'459'01)
    Speedrunners, the people who beat games most efficiently, choose Squirtle over Charmander.
    • Squirtle has a powerful move set from the start • Can learn TMs like Dig and Mega Punch • Is the only starter that can learn Surf, needed to complete the game
    In Gen 1, Charmander learns only Ember until level 38, and Flamethrower not until level 42, creating significant early-game disadvantage.
    Scientific American article concluded that Squirtle was the best choice based on game mechanics analysis.
  • Charizard's Late-Game Dominance(9'0110'52)
    • Charizard has higher stats than Blastoise overall, especially in Special Attack • Charizard has higher Speed stat than Blastoise • Charizard's Special Attack exceeds Blastoise's Special Defense
    Charizard can learn powerful moves including Hyper Beam, one of the strongest in the game.
    • Charizard is a dual Flying/Fire type while Blastoise is pure Water type • Charizard has resistance to six move types compared to Blastoise's four • Charizard has ground-type immunity while Blastoise has no immunities
    Charizard can learn three important hidden machines: Fly, Cut, and Strength, compared to Blastoise's two.
  • Game Progression and Training Difficulty(10'5212'40)
    Charmander starts weaker than Squirtle by stat points, putting trainers at disadvantage for the first two gym battles.
    Mt. Moon is filled with Ground-type Pokemon where Charmander is relegated to the back of the party, creating significant obstacles.
    Choosing Charmander forces trainers to become skilled and teaches patience necessary to become a true Pokemon Master.
    Charmander receives its Pokedex entry before Squirtle, suggesting the game itself prioritizes Charmander's importance.
  • Marketing and Regional Versions(12'4014'50)
    Charizard served as the mascot for the original Pokemon Red version.
    Charizard returned as the mascot for Fire Red, the remaster of the original Pokemon Red.
    Pokemon Blue sold more copies in the US than Pokemon Red, suggesting Squirtle's version was more popular commercially.
    Instead of making a Water Blue remaster, Nintendo created a Japan-exclusive Pokemon Green version instead.
  • Type Matchups and Battle Simulation(14'5015'23)
    Water beats Fire, Fire beats Grass, and Grass beats Water, creating a series of checks and balances with no objectively perfect Pokemon.
    • Hyper Beam has 90% accuracy compared to Hydro Pump's accuracy • Charizard's higher Special Attack makes Hyper Beam more effective • Hydro Pump is Blastoise's only move capable of damaging Charizard significantly
    In 100 simulated battles between Charizard and Blastoise, Blastoise won over 80% by round three, despite Charizard moving first.
    Charizard gets to move first in most matchups due to higher Speed stat, but Blastoise's water moves overcome this advantage.
  • Final Arguments and Conclusion(15'2316'55)
    Charizard boasts higher stats across the board compared to Blastoise in late-game scenarios.
    Both Pokemon have appeal: Charmander has a baby Charmander toy representing adorability, while Blastoise has impressive water cannons.
    The hosts reach a deadlock with no clear winner, acknowledging that no Pokemon starter is objectively perfect for every situation.
    The final determination is left to viewers to decide which Gen 1 starter is the best based on their own criteria and preferences.